Species wrote:if a lie is a lie it's not a different ball game, plus i consider withholding something as a lie too
I consider with-holding something a lie too. I agree.
But that example you gave is
one of the only time a lie is okay. Lemma explain better (if I can)...
To me, a lie is only okay when it's used for saving the world, saving a life, saving someone from serious physical harm, or keeping a nice surprise from someone.
Why is lying okay at these times? Well:
Saving The World
It's obviously okay to tell a lie to save the world from like, a super evil villan or something. You're saving lives by doing this.
Saving A Life
Again, it's obvious why this is okay.
Saving Someone From Serious Physical Harm
Again, obvious. And this actually refers to the lie you gave as an example.
Keeping A Nice Surprise From Someone
This is okay because the person you're temporally lying to will find out soon enough what the surprise is and they will like
it and be glad you kept it from them. Nobody is hurt from the truth, or the fact you lied.
Let's move on to why some people lie:
Saving Themselves When They've Done Something Wrong
Some people like to save themselves when they know they've done something wrong. This is not okay at all. If you do this, you're not only an liar, you're a coward from not admitting to what you've done, you're also an asshole for doing something you knew was wrong to do in the first place.
Saving Someone From Emotional Harm
This is wrong too. I'd much rather be hurt with the truth. If something's so bad that it'll hurt someone, then they need to know so they can deal with it, becoming stronger within themselves.
There are more examples, but I think that'll do. I was just trying to explain how I feel about different situations.
As always though, it's each-to-their own. And this is where I think I find the most trouble in life. I have very high morals, and I don't understand how people can so easily hurt others in this world.